The Mormons, part 1 video

This, Part 1, is exceptional. These people know what they are talking about and they are worth listening-to.

The scene I remember most is the one of the single mother with two daughters and a son walking from Illinois to Utah. Earlier, or I think this woman was one of them, the episode told the story of a woman recruited from the U.K. for the trek only to be told to build a cart and go.

This woman’s son died of starvation along the way and she was pleased it happened. Pleased he was put out of his misery is one way to look at it, we will be stronger and make it to the end of our journey is another. The mother embraced the latter position and this cuts to the heart of blood revenge or blood atonement. It is similar or worse than killing or harming disbelievers. It is okay if it is in the name of the religion.

Today it would be could be considered manslaughter or child endangerment.

I learned concepts like communitas, initiations, and rites of passage studying cultural anthropology a long time ago.

Both Joseph Smith and Brigham Young used them to create a massive enterprise. Smith and his family were “downwardly mobile” and Young was a 30-year old go-nowhere carpenter in Ohio. People would listen to them and they amassed great power and led that multi-billion dollar organization. Neither had any higher or formal education nor were either ever elected to any public office.

Smith was removed from every place he lived as a result and was finally murdered. Palmyra, NY, Kirtland, OH, the Garden of Eden in Jackson County, MO, and finally Nauvoo, IL. That is Americana. He was exiled and killed by the other Americans.

He was arrested some 30 times in his 39-year life for charges ranging from disorderly person/fraud to bank fraud, to treason, to conspiracy to murder. His profession–treasure hunting on poor farmland–may have been legal but staring into a hat and claiming to see where gold is buried, and taking money for it, is not.

Kingdom of Nauvoo.

When Smith was killed he was in serious legal trouble and facing treason charges in both Missouri and Illinois. He is not a martyr, he was a criminal.

Under Young the Mormons fled to Utah Territory. They had amassed money (Smith with his office over the general store, and the banking; I don’t know when tithing started.) They sent missionaries or scouts and every destination was legal or acquired at the time.

Utah was part of Mexico.

One thing about Americana is the law has never changed. Towns, companies, religions, and even cultures may come and go but the Constitution, except for a small number of amendments, has not changed.

Mormonism was formed under or because of freedom of religion in the United States (i.e., the Constitution). What I found best about the program is that it describes how it has been restrained since inception because of those laws. That is the concept of theocracy.

Wherever Joseph Smith tried he was kicked-out by the locals. Sometimes it was more legal than others, but it was accepted by the majority and/or powers that be at the time. His ideas or practices were not acceptable to the majority of the people or elected authorities where he and his followers lived and he was removed. Once this was by the governor of Missouri.

At the time it was different than ‘We’ll put you in jail and throw away the key’ (e.g., Warren Jeffs). They didn’t have the FBI or a lot of other resources. It was done in more forceful ways.

He seems to have had an incredible, look you in the eye charisma as well as sexual charm.

In reference to the May 25 letter to the editor “Mormon polygamists forced to follow laws,” and the claim that polygamy was not illegal in the United States before mormons practiced polygamy:

The Illinois anti-bigamy law enacted February 12, 1833 : “Sec 121. Bigamy consists in the having of two wives or two husbands at one and the same time, knowing that the former husband or wife is still alive. If any person or persons within this State,

being married, or who shall hereafter marry, do at any time marry any person or persons, the former husband or wife being alive, the person so offending shall, on conviction thereof, be punished by a fine, not exceeding one thousand dollars, and imprisoned in the penitentiary, not exceeding two years. It shall not be necessary to prove either of the said marriages by the register or certificate thereof, or other record evidence; but the same may be proved by such evidence as is admissible to prove a marriage in other cases, and when such second marriage shall have taken place without this state, cohabitation in this state after such second marriage shall be deemed the commission of the crime of bigamy, and the trial in such case may take

place in the county where such cohabitation shall have occurred.” Revised Laws of Illinois, 1833, p.198-99.

Illinois population 1830: 157,500

Illinois population 1840: 457,000

Illinois population 1850: 851,500

Nauvoo population at peak (around 1842): 13,000

Hancock County pop. 1840: 9,946 1850: 14,652 1860: 29,061 etc.,_Illinois

One two

One. Two.

But first, what I have learned about narcissism.

There was a storyline in the sitcom Friends that there is no real good dead; if it makes you feel good, then it is not unselfish. Most, or many people have narcissistic tendencies, particularly if they are ambitious, confident, or other such adjectives. These people are not “dangerous” in any way. In addition, there are narcissistic disorders (malignant narcissism or psychopath) where narcissists become abusive or even a danger to others.

The basic premise is to look more inwardly than outwardly. For me, the degree of severity–or danger–is best gauged through empathy. Those with malignant narcissism want to or don’t care about hurting others.

It is rooted in one’s upbringing. Factors such as mirroring, entitlement, abuse (sexual or otherwise), discipline, or a lack of affection or attention influence it. It could be called inherited.

A key component (I learned this from Dr. _____) on Youtube, is me against you or them. I am right and you are wrong. This includes difficulty appreciating or loving people for who they are. Taken further, contentiousness and conflict.


Steven Powell, the father of killer Josh Powell, is as disgusting an individual as I have ever seen. I cannot forget the police interview videos of him. He is smirking and smiling and all the while talking about his infatuation with his son’s wife. He took pictures and videos and masturbated. He sang songs and wrote poetry, used mirrors under the bathroom door; there were neighbors and other women/girls too.

There are many other stories too. There is evidence or they are made in court by people who know. They are not just allegations.

Powell believed he would marry his son’s wife. Even though she and her husband Josh moved out of state because of the conflict–Utah and the Mormon church provided solace–he still believed she was flirting with him.

There are more anecdotes including he wanted multiple wives and he believed women are unequal or subservient to men. He called his daughter who was there for a holiday gathering a “fucking bitch” (i.e., not supportive of his edicts and family secrets) and ordered her and her husband out of the house.

This is me against them contention.

He was given a 10-year sentence; he served some three years at age 65 for voyeurism.


In the videos before Josh Powell killed himself and his sons, he looks extremely conflicted. If this is possible, he looks as though he has intimacy problems.

In the police station, he is cowering in the corner during the interrogation in his Winter hat and coat. He is looking at no one and saying nothing.

Then a reporter shoves a camera in his face while he is getting in–the rental? police confiscated his minivan–car. Again, he is more or less looking at the ground, and says “We got a late start,” referring to the 2 AM “camping” expedition with very young children.

Prior to that trip neighbors reported a lot of car alarm noise coming from the garage. The stereo was loud and there were large fans around a wet carpet. The minivan has no trunk, but Mommy may have been in the back per the young son. There are conflicting stories that father Steven or brother Michael were along on the trip; another, a report from a gas station worker, suggests Susan was alive and there too.

From that point on Susan was no longer seen, ever, and those were the last people who saw her. (To me that, and other circumstantial evidence, was enough to arrest Josh Powell.)

While father Steven is one of the more disgusting people I have seen in the news, Josh is as pathetic as they come. Steven did it as a conspirator, leader, manipulator, and something of a “white collar” approach. Josh did it hands-on.

He couldn’t do anything right, including the murder of his wife which he was forced to follow-up with the complete destruction of his family. In his early 30’s he had a bankruptcy. Despite a degree in business from the Univ. of Washington he could not hold down a job. He wasn’t even all-in with Mormonism. This relates to almost nothing but I cannot forget it: the family had one car which Josh used–he wanted to be a realtor–and Susan rode her bicycle to work.

She seemed industrious. She was just twenty when they married. She became a licensed realtor to help his floundering careers. She was apparently a “broker” at Wells Fargo. She seemed great, but he could not love her for who she was. Past tense.

Josh seems eternally conflicted. When his wife had their first child he couldn’t go to the hospital because he had to backup his hard drive. Maybe distracted is a better word, or even tormented. Everything has to be his way, which is not the right way for others.

Brother Michael killed himself too, for the same reason.

Why? The father Steven.

More true crime is the site and Annie Cushing is her name. It is the longest, most rambling timeline of Lori Daybell in existence. I couldn’t tell on my phone if it is current or if it ever ends. If you scroll it never stops.

I don’t know what Reddit is but they have changed and now you can read it. Maybe it is the stigma of being called out if you are a dufos, but the people there are really informed. That is the only place where I learned about Barry, Janis, and the Kansas shockjock brother.

I am going to stop now because I just spent my time posting to Annie. Besides, I have Josh Powell on the mind. I learned about him and his family on East Idaho News. Nate is my buddy; just kidding. It took a lot of nerve to stick a microphone in Lori’s face and ask the tough questions, and I believe I read somewhere that the reporter is not that way. Someone had to do it. Grossbart, Grossman, Eric went along for the photo credits. I think they and others (gosh, Annie’s site mentions Justin Lum and everything else) do an excellent job where their edict is to stick to journalism.

“Honestly, when I saw her, she just looked like a survivor.”

Judy Veloz is right. She also said something–I thought it would be one of those soundbites that they repeat, but it was quick and only once–and it was not real articulate. You cannot let your story influence the story.

It gets back to psychology and parents. And it happens everywhere all the time.

Poor Mary.

I didn’t buy the Southern accent thing for starters. I sounds more like country or uneducated to me anyway. Forget the “starters.” No one knows or could imagine the life that Mary led. Anything is possible, and that is psychology, not law enforcement.

At first 48 hours presented the detectives as extremely capable and even admirable. Geez, inventing a secret birth daughter? “The devil inside me” is probably not enough to convict for murder while often times a DNA match is.

Poor Mary. Memory lapses, alcoholism, and beatings are all about psychology too.

As is so often the case it is something else, or more accurately, something additional. The cadaver dogs are a perfect example in this one. Who knows what else went on in that household?

P.S. Go Crosley Green!

Welcome to Montana

I have never been to Montana so I don’t know. I could draw a semicircle around the state and while it may be lopsided, it would include people who are the most remote in the U.S.

It is politics vs. the law. I wonder if a lawyer would say that.

I say it is, and as the great writer John Jay Osborne, Jr. once wrote about in terms of paralegals, I am a paraperson. Citizen, lawyer, paraperson.

An anthropologist would call it culture or enculturation. That is where and how it becomes a big case and not just a tort for damages.

Anarchist is the only word I can think of. I need to work on that, so politics will have to do for now.

“You can’t even let your dog off a leash there anymore!” The explanation point is mine. It was not a statement; it was condemnation and a demand.

The sheriff’s department and the E. P. R. D. have both said the same thing, over time. Only one actually said it out loud. Can you guess who?

Thinking like a lawyer

Writers write. I’d rather call this by that name, but I would have to use it over and over.

I will call it Think like a lawyer because that is something useful and worth putting into words. I haven’t even done anything legal–that is a poor choice of words–yet but it has benefited me. I remember when I felt I had learned to really write, what a great feeling that was. I wouldn’t put this, the ability to think like a lawyer, up there with that, but it is gratifying and a relief. For now I will call it soothing.

For any real lawyers who might read this, I certainly cannot claim to be an experienced or effective person with a career in it. At the same time, I hope to accomplish things, perhaps including some that licensed attorneys cannot, pro se (without a lawyer) and in small claims court (lawyers not allowed).

Is thinking like a lawyer learning lots of new words, like scienter? Its meaning may or may not be loosely based on the word science, but it is a legal term meaning a lie. You could use it to impress someone maybe, or to prove to them you know what you are talking about and that you mean business. It is fun to learn new words that have purpose and history, but that is not thinking like a lawyer.

For me, thinking like a lawyer–I am about halfway through my minimalist education, which I will explain later in this post–is being able to put together a case or respond to one in a rational and legal way. Since I am and will remain an amateur lawyer, that means knowing the basics and where to go for more if I need it.

Remember professor Kingsfield in The Paper Chase? He was the contracts professor who kept saying “I will train your mind and you will teach yourselves to think like a lawyer.”

Thinking like a lawyer can include the word scienter because its use could help to prove or disprove a case. I’ll use it in an example.

I am having an ongoing feud with the Evergreen Parks and Recreation Department, a local special district which provides park space, a recreation center, and classes. Approximately 15 years ago they purchased a 17-acre triangle of land between my home and neighborhood and a busy state highway. This property (Stagecoach Park) has a little league field, lacrosse field, benches and picnic tables, and tot lot. The neighborhood adjacent to the is rather small (about 300 homes), the area is at 7,500 feet and mountainous, and the park is relatively secluded; most users live nearby and walk there (except during games or practices on the athletic fields) while others drive to the small parking lots.

Evergreen, Colorado is in unincorporated Jefferson County and the only law enforcement agency besides the state “patrol” is the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Department. Signs posted by the EPRD at Stagecoach Park and all their locations (approx. 10) say call 911, “Animal Control” (a non-sworn department within the sheriff’s department that helps enforce the animal ordinance from the county commission), and the EPRD Park Ranger.

My home overlooks the park and I am afraid to go there. Nearby residents and drive-there visitors use the park specifically to let their dogs run free. Seldom do they pick up after them. That there is no ranger or supervision is well known. At times there are three or four dogs running at large–defined as not just off a leash– while people play softball, talk on phones, or do other things. I have been attacked several times. It is not safe without a guard dog of your own. Other crimes including commercial activities, motorized vehicles, unapproved private parties, abandoned vehicles, and occur frequently. Without even trying, I see it all from my house on a daily basis.

Jefferson county sheriff’s department deputies will not respond and I have been threatened/told not to call them; I have pictures of deputies in their SUVs with dogs running at large (“at large” is more severe than “dog off leash”) behind them; they will not even get out of the vehicle; nothing is ever said, and they leave. That is if they show-up at all. Animal Control will say “What do you want us to do, give them a warning?” That is, if they choose to show-up after arguing, which is almost always way too late. Pictures, videos, and emails will not help. They will not actually respond.

In 15 years, and I have made “hundreds” or close-to-that number of reports, with pics and video, and not one citation has ever been issued.

Pretending we are in small claims court and as a non-lawyer, how do I handle it? Thinking like a lawyer, what is my case?

Here is a little more background on the EPRD “ranger.” A small amount of checking proves that the phone number belongs to a maintenance manager. I have called dozens of times–live, at real incidents–and have never received a reply. How can a ranger be at ten properties at the same time anyway? It is a complete scam: there is no ranger. There definitely is no ranger in terms of doing what park rangers normally do.

This is (a) scienter or lie, which is not a common word and I don’t know if it is a noun or verb. In legal terms it is fraud and it can be the basis for a tort claim.

In addition, the long battle of reporting it shows both intention and negligence. The EPRD is knowingly and intentionally putting people in danger.

Isn’t it the responsibility of the sheriff’s department to to enforce the law? Yes, and we will get to that. For now, I’ll just say res ipsa loquitor, or it is what it is. It would not be happening “but-if”–another new word I learned–the park wasn’t there or if the park owners were doing something about the crime and danger (maybe I need some help with the writing instead of the diction!).

The fraud goes deeper. I lived here when the EPRD sought a millage to buy the land and create a public park; the offer and “time” since–don’t know yet how to apply that legal principal–was not and is not for a doggy park. Remember what I wrote that I cannot use the park because of the safety issue and the unusual situation in that there is no one to call if there is an incident. I believe the EPRD’s behavior is both negligent and intentional and I can prove it. Finally, their overall intransigence (not a legal term, to my knowledge) contributes to the intentional infliction of emotional distress.

I didn’t say I have it all worked out, but that is the gist of thinking like a lawyer. There are details within the details, but that is a case, and there are ways to initiate it and to defend it.

Let me see here, loose ends, I don’t want to keep the reader in suspense. Who is liable, the EPRD or the sheriff? I contend both, in separate ways. One could consider the EPRD 100% responsible, but that doesn’t even matter, they are culpable enough because of the but-if rule. The sheriff will receive an intimidating a witness claim once I figure out how to do that–claim, that’s a new word I learned for a lawsuit!

Damages? How about a refund of all my tax payments to the EPRD. It is allowed to ask and it does not hurt to ask. “Things,” there goes my writing ability again, will happen as a result of asking.

There is no point trying to argue with the nonexistent ranger (i.e., employee who is just following instructions) because now I have a course of action. Another part of thinking like a lawyer, Professor Kingsfield doesn’t matter and the only thing that does are the components of the case. Nonetheless, I will throw in and remember another media tidbit (need link). The 20/20 program on the Austin, TX judge who dealt with the same criminals in several cases over years until they finally came to her house and shot her in the driveway. She survived, pursued it of course and won; obviously she knew the system, but she displayed memorable and amazing patience. She showed, you have to do it in a considered approach within the system or it will not work.

Think like a lawyer. Put your ducks in a row. Have a plan, or at least a theory or approach, before opening your mouth. Then, when you do it will carry a lot more weight.

How I am Preparing Myself:

Coursera Introduction to American Law

The Last Recession

About once every three or four episodes one gets to me. I think about it, rewind it, and I go back to it and rewatch the parts that I did not follow.

Tommy Nguyen, who apparently produced it, posted it free for all. His other videos (disabled kids?) appear equally intrusive.

This one spans some 4 years of filming. Were they paid by NBC?

Caution, spoiler to follow! The only hardship the family of four endured other than the economy was the motorcycle accident. That was a bad one, and a major hook for the story is that it was while riding a second hidden Harley. Therein lies a clue to what is going on: it will come back. Home prices, Harley prices, the amorphous economy, and my entire life will come back.

The story is very sad because of the disability. The characters are likeable. But the mystery remains.

Doing the math backward, they paid $65K down on a $325,000 house. They poured all this money into it and also took it out in the form of more mortgages. The mortgages work a lot better when you have a high income. Apparently it was worth near $800,000 and it went down to under $500,000. They were $90K in the red, meaning they had $600,000 in debt.

The house is in Las Flores, CA. I had never heard of it but I like looking-up houses and areas. It is in Orange County, California, which can be very nice and is always expensive. The Sadowski’s home looks a little nicer than those in the links above–it backs up to open space with a giant metal fence, which is where the outdoor dining room sits next to the pool with real rocks. But still.

He had 25-40 employees and 15-17 projects and all that. Something is wrong and even snooping over four years does not answer it.

Neither can find a job in 2 years. They could work at a grocery store or Walmart.

You see these people and they are very sad stories. It is like the series American Greed. The stories are consuming, but what about these poor people?

$650 for food stamps and $750 for welfare.

The woman’s mother lost her house too. What is the matter with these people?